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Feb 1, 2014 20:48:38 GMT -5
Post by Valdemarstor on Feb 1, 2014 20:48:38 GMT -5
Bob,
Do you have a colorless map available of Zaidan-Tai? Even better, do you have one with just the political boundaries? I may try to build some overlays showing different types of holdings, allegiances, and whatnot. Since every lord in the land would be following the contents of the map very closely, I'd share whatever I build. Mainly, it'd be a tool for folks that like to visualize things spatially rather than by collating and comparing the data mentally.
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Feb 1, 2014 22:42:35 GMT -5
Post by Bob (DM) on Feb 1, 2014 22:42:35 GMT -5
Actually I do, and I have just such maps as well, I just have to update them to reflect the changes made to create the current player positions.
In fact, since the map is done in Photoshop and everything is on separate layers I can pretty much produce any sort of map you desire.
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Feb 1, 2014 23:37:33 GMT -5
Post by Valdemarstor on Feb 1, 2014 23:37:33 GMT -5
Ah so. I wondered if you were using Photoshop, CC3, GIMP, or something else.
I'm mainly playing with overlays that show who controls what.
So, for example, the province rulership map would shade or provide crosshatches that linked to different rulers. To keep things simple, the colors of the shading/hatching would be related according to the Paramount Lord. All provinces in Nansei-Do would be shaded red; provinces held in fief would be cross-hatched: Maeda might be red diagonal (LU-RD), Mori might be red horizontal, and Abe would be red vertical. This would be replicated for all the provinces. The map would then show you at a glance who is in charge of what. Right now, it wouldn't be THAT exciting since the regions start wholly controlled by their respective lords but that will change. The map would also show you at a glance if there might be a vassal that holds a geographically important province or, alternatively, if a vassal is easily isolated geographically.
The temples maps would be a little different. At the moment, it's a huge cluster trying to visualize the other temples: lots of flipping back and forth from my map to the spreadsheet. Being able to see how they're spread out will explain a lot about their philosophies and what linkages we can expect. Also, with maps and overlays, you can do neat stuff like put multiple overlays up at once where you can start to see patterns: patterns of alliance and patterns of conflict.
I dare say the guild maps would serve a similar function to the temples map but, not having much in terms of guild holdings, they are a bit less important to me just this moment.
Manor maps would be more important for the land-focused regents, I expect, though I think they'd be interesting to everyone.
Finally, if I get industrious (read: bored), I could also play with the overlays to show strength of holdings. I'm not sure how I'd depict that; maybe with just a number rather than some more complicated symbol or graphical effect.
Anyway, that's where I'd like to go with it all. I'm using GIMP to generate the overlays. I'm not sure if GIMP plays well with Photoshop but I'm happy to share everything I produce in case you want to play with the overlays and not just be a "customer" of map products.
The easiest map for me to work with would only show province names and borders. Some of the overlays may get pretty busy so extra colors could easily become a huge distraction.
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Feb 2, 2014 0:05:05 GMT -5
Post by Bob (DM) on Feb 2, 2014 0:05:05 GMT -5
OK, what format would you like the base map in?
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Feb 2, 2014 14:10:53 GMT -5
Post by Valdemarstor on Feb 2, 2014 14:10:53 GMT -5
.jpg or .png
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Feb 2, 2014 17:02:34 GMT -5
Post by Bob (DM) on Feb 2, 2014 17:02:34 GMT -5
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Feb 3, 2014 1:07:27 GMT -5
Post by Valdemarstor on Feb 3, 2014 1:07:27 GMT -5
Law Rulers.pdf (339.53 KB) So, it's not pretty, but here's the first map. This one is the simplest and just shows province rulers. Clans are all in the same color. If there's no pattern, the Paramount Lord holds the province directly. Provinces with patterns are held by vassals. I'm not sure how I'll do the temple holdings since there's quite a bit of overlap. I'll play around with some different combinations later this week. I'm sure Bob would prefer to get some other stuff from me first and this week may be rough. Ed
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Feb 3, 2014 2:52:25 GMT -5
Post by Bob (DM) on Feb 3, 2014 2:52:25 GMT -5
The attachment didn't work for some reason.
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Feb 3, 2014 7:23:38 GMT -5
Post by Oshiro Yasuo - Osh (Tudor) on Feb 3, 2014 7:23:38 GMT -5
I think that Tonaki, in Nansei-do, is part of Yamaki and does not belong to the paramount lord
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Feb 3, 2014 9:54:50 GMT -5
Post by Valdemarstor on Feb 3, 2014 9:54:50 GMT -5
Do you have a different spreadsheet, maybe? My spreadsheet shows the province ruler as Yamaki no Ryoshu, one of the vasssals of Clan Watanabe.
Bob, is it still not working for you?
All, I'll pretty it up at some point. I mainly just wanted to get a feel for how difficult it would be. As it happens, I suck with GIMP and ended up doing most of it in MS PowerPoint. Unfortunately, PowerPoint does not come with useful patterns so I had to make a bunch of patterns and import them. On top of that, PowerPoint doesn't have a good way to lift the province borders so I have to generate them manually by tracing. If someone wants to see something in particular, I might be able to accommodate based on my available time and the relevance to my domain (I won't lie: the motivation to do source and guild domains is lower for me!).
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Feb 3, 2014 13:50:45 GMT -5
Post by Bob (DM) on Feb 3, 2014 13:50:45 GMT -5
Tonaki belongs to Yamaki, which is a vassal of the Watanabe. Ryusho is a title meaning a lord of a landed realm. The structure is as follows: CHUO-DO PL: Agawa (Ikeda clan - NPC) L: Midori (Ishikawa clan - PC) L: Oharu (Hashimoto clan - NPC) HOKUSEI-DO PL: Sasaguri (Sato clan - NPC) L: Akiota (Oshiro clan - NPC) L: Odai (Tanaka clan - NPC) L: Otawara (Takahashi clan - NPC) HOKUTO-DO PL: Tamamura (Yamashita clan - PC) L: Masaki (Isshii clan - PC) L: Mihama (Ogawa clan - PC) NANSEI-DO PL: Kodama (Watanabe clan - NPC) L: Agari Retto (Maeda clan - PC) L: Fukuchi (Abe clan - NPC) L: Yamaki (Mori clan - PC) NANTO-DO PL: Yamaguchi (Nishimura clan - PC) L: Hinohara (Takagi clan - PC) L: Sakaide (Miura clan - NPC) L: Yurihama (Takeuchi clan - NPC) Here is a quick map with Chuo-do in shades of blue, Hokusei-do in shades of purple, Hokuto-do in reds & pinks, Nansei-do in browns, and Nanto-do in greens. www.dropbox.com/s/q7snk7jzqladgou/Zaidan%20political.jpg
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Feb 3, 2014 17:09:13 GMT -5
Post by Oshiro Yasuo - Osh (Tudor) on Feb 3, 2014 17:09:13 GMT -5
Sorry for the confusion, what I intended was to say that, in Ogori Bunsha/Maeda Yuudai map, Tonaki has the same color pattern as the lands of the paramount lord, different from Yamachita, but both (Yamachita and Tonaki) are part of Yamaki (leaded by the Mory clan)
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